2024 CIF Regional Championship Tournaments

High School - Boys
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Here is the link to the website for the 2024 CIF Northern and Southern California Regional Championship Tournaments:

https://www.cifstate.org/sports/waterpolo/champ_info

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Still waiting for CIF to provide a coherent explanation as to why the Regional event makes sense for anyone other than CIF’s coffers. So we are taking teams that lost in the semis or won in a lower division and we are going to repackage it up and pretend it’s meaningful.

NorCal and SoCal boys play in the same season. Provide a true CIF State Championship like you do in other sports.

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They won’t do it because the girls play different seasons in NorCal and SoCal and if they can’t do it for both, then neither of them get a state tournament. And yes the regional event is a complete waste of time. The Southern Section voted against it when it was implemented

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So “equity” in a nutshell
Girls can’t have states (for a valid reason) so boys can’t either
Weak! Let them play

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We need teams to start opting out in order to get rid of it. Or only take winners of each division. There’s no reason 4th place teams are playing rematch games of teams they lost to a week ago.

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If JSerra and Oaks Christian win their SoCal Regional Division I quarter-final games on Tuesday, they will face each other in the semi-finals on Thursday. That would make it their seventh meeting of the year. That has to be some kind of record. (JSerra has won all six games so far.)

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Here are my predictions, often wrong, for the 2024 Northern and Southern California Regional Championship Tournaments. I don’t know enough about the schools participating in the Division 3 Tournaments to comment on those tournaments.

NorCal Boys’ Division 1. This Division will be highly competitive, with 6 schools in my top 20 list.

  1. Sacred Heart. I won’t be surprised if De La Salle wins the tournament.
  2. De La Salle. De La Salle will have a tough game against Campolindo or St. Francis in the semifinals.
  3. Miramonte. Miramonte has to beat a solid Archie Williams team to reach the semifinals. Miramonte is good enough to win the tournament.
    (3.). Campolindo. The first-round game between Campolindo and St. Francis could go either way.

NorCal Boys’ Division 2

  1. Redwood. The likely championship game between Redwood and Menlo will be close. Redwood has a top 20 team.
  2. Menlo
  3. Clovis West
    (3.). Davis

NorCal Girls’ Division 1

  1. Sacred Heart
  2. Arroyo Grande
  3. Miramonte. The first-round game between Miramonte and Campolindo could go either way.
    (3.). Carondelet

NorCal Girls’ Division 2

  1. Clovis East
  2. Leland
  3. Davis
    (3.) Stevenson

SoCal Boys’ Division 1

  1. Newport Harbor. The likely championship game between Newport and JSerra will be close. I give the slight edge to Newport because it has a deeper and stronger bench.
  2. JSerra
  3. Oaks Christian
    (3.) Cathedral Catholic

SoCal Boys’ Division 2

  1. Mira Costa
  2. Carlsbad
  3. Brea Olinda
    (3.) Santana
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At least a chance some teams may be shorthanded on Saturday for lost Thanksgiving travelers.

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The heavy rains predicted for parts of Northern California could affect some of the games scheduled to be played on Thursday.

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The CIF Committee needs to have some water polo people involved. First and foremost, sending La Jolla to Oaks Christian on a Tuesday is ludicrous. That is a 4hr drive there and back–on a school day for that matter. Have Westlake play Oaks Christian (backyard brawl) and then send La Jolla to Newport. It’s not that hard.

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It is ridiculous that the boys can’t have a State Championship because the girls don’t. The girls have the option of having a State Championship, but it is their decision to play the sport in different seasons. Why should the boys be penalized for that?

Absent having an eventual State Championship, the Regionals is a complete waste of time IMHO.

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swimcoach, who is choosing to play in different seasons? Is it norcal for wanting to play in fall, or socal for wanting to play in winter? Is there enough pool space for boys and girls to play in the same season? It seems to be working in norcal, but maybe not good enough for socal?

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I believe the girls don’t play in the winter up north because of the weather. In the south, having the girls go during the fall would be a nightmare in terms of pool space and officials .

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Swimcoach, agreed. Make it a spring sport for both.

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Bracket Logistics Brutality:

La Jolla driving to Oaks today.
Westlake to Newport.
CDM to Cathedral.
Bishops to JSerra.

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Spring is a no go due to swimming.

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I can see your point that this can be viewed as brutal. It’s also really exciting and memorable as a team to travel a long way to battle it out with a team you typically wouldn’t match up against in the post season. I could imagine the kids from La Jolla are frothing to go to Oaks to battle it out on a weeknight, same with Westlake. It’s a big honor for some of these teams just to be in the game. Maybe i’m just a little nostalgic now that my kid has moved on…

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11/19 scores:

SoCal Boys’ Division 1
Newport 17, Westlake 8. Hats off to Westlake for a very good season.
Cathedral Catholic 11, CdM 8. Watch out for Cathedral next year.
Oaks Christian 15, La Jolla 7
JSerra 14, Bishop’s 9

SoCal Boys’ Division 2
Mira Costa 19, La Costa Canyon 6
Brea Olinda 15, Point Loma 12
Santana 18, Capistrano Valley 9
Carlsbad 15, King 8

NorCal Boys’ Division 1
Miramonte 14, Archie Williams 7
DLS 16, Buchanan 9
Campo 12, St. Francis 7
SHP 13, Rio Americano 5

NorCal Boys’ Division 2
Menlo 17, Righetti 9
Redwood 14, Harker 13
Clovis 14, Davis 6
Rocklin 12, Clovis West 11

NorCal Girls’ Division 1
SHP 19, Granite Bay 6
Arroyo Grande 11, Soquel 7
Miramonte 5, Campo 4
Carondelet 11, Acalanes 6

NorCal Girls’ Division 2
Davis 11, Merced 4
Leland 11, Clovis 7
Stevenson 10, Buchanan 9
San Ramon Valley 13, Clovis East 5 (shows you what I know)

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Swimcoach, you have been around long enough to know that the girls did not "pick’ to be in different seasons.
A very easy solution would be for the boys to become men, and say, 'hey let the girls play in the fall, both in NorCal and Socal, and us ‘men’ will play in the winter, because we can handle the cold better. But we all know the boys don’t want to do that, and they will stick with their ‘warm’ fall season, and let the girls take the winter, down here in Socal.
In Socal we don’t have enough pools and officials to run both programs in same season, and you know that.
Another thing, the girls could not care less if the boys had their State Championships. More power to them

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My point is, why should the boys be penalized just because the girls don’t have a true State Championship? I imagine that the girls can figure it out if they want to, with either Northern California moving their season to the Winter Quarter or Southern California moving theirs to the Fall.

As far as logistics go, if the Northern California teams can both play in the same season (Fall), then why can’t the Southern California teams? Is there really more relative pool space available up North compared to the South?

Maybe the girls could care less about the boys having a true State Championship, but I guarantee you that they would like to play for one themselves.